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157: Biohacking Roundtable feat. Hanu Health & Sleep Is A Skill l HRV Expert Dr. Jay Wiles and Sleep Guru Mollie McGlocklin Join Us for an Unscripted Panel Discussion

Aug 8, 2022 | Season 3


What happens when you put four biohackers on a podcast together? A really fun discussion, multiple perspectives on different health topics, and the best effective biohacks available today. Our discussion includes what we all eat for breakfast, fasting and circadian rhythm, the hot topic of mouth taping, and more! We had a blast chatting with our friends and fellow biohackers, Dr. Jay Wiles and Mollie McGlocklin, who have also been on our podcast before where we discussed Heart Rate Variability and sleep optimization in depth. If you're not familiar with these amazing experts, check out their bios below.

Dr. Jay Wiles is an international speaker, scientist, clinician, influencer, and subject-matter expert and authority on the interconnection between the human stress response and health performance/optimization. Dr. Wiles is a clinical health and performance psychologist with board certification in heart rate variability biofeedback and peripheral biofeedback and works as a leading consultant in psychophysiology to health influencers, professional athletes and teams, executives, and high performers. He is the co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer of Hanu Health. He has pioneered new and innovative means of using heart rate variability (HRV) and respiratory training as both diagnostic indicators of the dynamic nature of the human stress response, alongside therapeutic tools for regulating and conditioning this response for peak human performance. Dr. Wiles has an extensive history of working with top-performing athletes in the PGA, LPGA, MLS, MLB, ATP, and WTA. His consulting firm, Thrive Wellness and Performance, has held contracts with leading biotechnology and health technology organizations where he has engaged in research, development of therapeutics, and development of behavioral retention programs. Dr. Wiles has operated as the cohost of the Ben Greenfield Podcast since 2019 and hosts the Hanu Health Podcast.

Mollie McGlocklin is the creator of Sleep Is A Skill, and the host of The Sleep Is A Skill Podcast. Sleep Is A Skill is a company that optimizes people’s sleep through a unique blend of technology, accountability, and behavioral change. After navigating insomnia while traveling internationally, she created what she couldn’t find – a place to go to learn the skill set of sleep. With a background in behavioral change from The Nonverbal Group, she became fascinated with chronobiology and its practical application to sleep and our overall experience of life. Knowing the difference between a life with sleep and without, she’s now dedicated her life to sharing the forgotten skill set of sleep.


0:51 Welcome to the show!

3:07 Dr. Jay’s Roundtable intro

5:16 Meet Mollie McGlocklin – Sleep is a Skill

7:16 Renee’s intro

8:18 Lauren’s intro

10:21 Dr. Jay Wiles – Hanu Health

13:08 What we ate for breakfast

15:44 Whats better: simplicity or variety?

18:35 Identifying food sensitivities

23:27 Mollie’s opinion on food timing

26:49 Confusion with food dogma

28:18 Circadian Rhythm IF & Early-Time-Restricted Feeding

29:14 Thomas DeLauer’s research on skipping breakfast

32:04 Do we follow the science or lived experience?

36:28 The importance of working with a coach

37:47 *Hanu Health Ad*

40:48 Satchin Panda’s Circadian feeding window

43:49 Dr. Jay’s fasting schedule

45:57 The glucose effect of breaking a fast

55:02 Our thoughts on mouth tape

58:29 Mollie’s suggestions for mouth tape

59:39 Statistics on sleep-disordered breathing 

1:01:43 Patrick McKeown

1:02:57 Our responsibility as practitioners/teachers

1:04:50 Variables to check for mouth taping

1:06:35 Addressing breathing in children

1:08:23 Healthy Start for Kids

1:011:52 Can mouth tape help us adapt?

1:17:55 Thanks for tuning in!


IG: Dr Jay Wiles

Podcast: Hanu Health

IG: Mollie McGlocklin

Podcast: Sleep Is A Skill

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